In this episode, I sit down with Grant to share what I’ve learned over nearly two decades of coaching and racing in both pool and open water environments, including qualifying for Open Water Nationals as an adult.

We explore the gap between pool-perfect technique and what actually works in real race conditions like chop, fatigue, and contact. I break down why swimmers often struggle when they try to carry over overly rigid pool habits into open water, and how that leads to overthinking and breakdown under pressure.

We also get into how I now approach stroke rate, breathing, sighting, and recovery in a more adaptable way, depending on conditions.

A key theme is simplicity, learning to stay relaxed, trust feel, and avoid constantly chasing technical changes. We also cover what truly transfers from pool to open water, and why consistency and mindset matter more than constant technique overhauls.

03:51 – Why pool technique doesn’t always translate to open water
07:40 – Stroke rate, sighting, breathing patterns, and adapting to rough conditions
12:19 – Common mistakes swimmers make with technique and body awareness
16:55 – How Brenton simplifies coaching and decides what not to change
21:49 – Why some swimmers improve long term while others stay stuck
28:29 – Overthinking technique and finding the “feel” for swimming
32:40 – Qualifying for Open Water Nationals and improving later in life
37:20 – Strength, mobility, VO₂ sets, and training after 40
41:50 – Drafting tactics, “effortless swimming,” favorite swim sets, and final advice

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